i do know we can eliminate the deficit simply slowing down government growth. we don't need to cut government. we simply need to slow it down. if we do that we'll eliminate the annual deficit. >> you hear the argument that is like throwing granny off a cliff. >> i don't think it is. i disagree with it. neil: do you feel attempted to go into politics? >> no. if i ever do i hope somebody talks me out of it. neil: some of the best ideas i ever heard, john are from guys like you. the whole process soils you, oh, my god, i can't deal with it, it is so stupid? >> it is difficult because i found in my own experience when you're very authentic and tell the truth and honest often times get attacked. you get smeared, you, very difficult. takes a lot of courage, i think to go into the political realm these days. neil: will be interesting. put it that way. john mackey. whole foods market cofounder, co-ceo. conscience capitalism. read it. thought to paper and thought that sticks in your head. all right. inauguration on monday. we are there. i'm there all day. we'll get ther